Instead, I found out that the boss daughter had been viciously murdered by her husband, and just what they could print in the paper was complete nightmare fuel. If youre online and happen to come across something about a colleague I dont think thats a big deal. Its not work-relevant that you stumbled onto someones explicit pix on a dating page (or courtesy of some revenge porn jerk) and you may be reasonably sure that a client will not recognize them in that gear, unless theyve changed in the same bathroom and seen the tatoo that confirmed it for you. It is information collected specifically for the purpose of informing the public. Cvs health store and distribution center code of conduct - Quizlet The alerts make it appear I am leading a life of crime all around the US. And I know Ive been Googled by coworkers, because Im (mildly) internet famous through a hobby; everywhere Ive worked, people knew about this when I arrived, and it wasnt me that told them. More managers are taking on an unfamiliar roleand so should you. Here (Eg I have some coworkers that compete in different sports at a decently high level). It is usually done for a specific purpose yes like a divorce case, or an insurance company trying to catch a potential scammer. Once a quarter, we have a budget for a catered team lunch. So I was effectively searching colleagues all the time because I dont carry everyones extensions/office locations in my head and keeping a local version was very much frowned upon by senior management. OP, I think whatever you do doing something is better than nothing. Say in the 1980s if I had a coworker and I was curious where they lived, I could go to the phone book, look up their name and find their address and you could know the neighborhood they live in. . In the cases where you/she/we/whomever didnt put it out there all the examples given are of public information. Maybe consider adding something similar so the community-building aspect is included and not just the free food. I have enough going in my own life to keep me occupied! Oh and also theyve been getting up to go refill their water a lot 15 times over the last two days! Its public. This would allow me to change how Im explaining something were disagreeing on and allow me to tailor my approach a bit better. I have an unusual name. Does that make it OK to talk to your co-workers about their divorces and home prices? Its totally possible that this organization is just a poor fit, but maybe theres some feedback you can learn from in this crappy experience, too. Anything you could call research is an overstep. I think the world has just changed and therefore our points of view have to. (Im in a marketing-related field, so I go to check out their brochures and sales pitches to see what I can learn and get a free lunch.). Dont be so sensitive! Boundary crossers will cross boundaries anywhere and everywhere and will (in their mind) have a good reason for doing so. When LiveJournal was popular in the late 90s, people posted stuff under their real names that theyd be mortified if their parents or non-computer-savvy friends saw. The internet didnt make it public, its just another outlet to access it. You look up all of them as a default? I really like my job overall and I work in a very specialized profession so I dont have many options and dont want to leave. Yes, a basic google search to make sure there are no red banners (eg RECENT boasts about wild and drunk parties, racist rants, sketchy schemes, or anything that contradicts their resume or application materials) can make a lot of sense. Maybe its time to try again. The one we ended up selecting had a blog. Also, the sorts of creepiness that you can do by stalking someone online are (broadly speaking) indirect and deferred; the sorts of creepiness you can do by being at someones house is direct, immediate and thus intrinsically always weirder. They gave us a spending limit and it worked well. If it doesn't at least have bin, pcn, and member ID, it's not your pharmacy insurance card (exept tricare) and you can save that card for the dentist/drs office. Make sure the card image you upload in the app includes your bin/grp/pcn/and member ID numbers. LW 2: salary negotiation classes? AAMs script would also be helpful during a time like this. That could be anything from a Grubhub gift card and a note to get lunch on you, to stopping by with coffeefor the people elsewhere on campus (maybe do your next one-on-one on their turf and bring it with you), to sending them all some special treat, timed to arrive on the same day as the department pizza party. . Once people know it, they *will* respond to it. While you can certainly find people who feel even a basic google search is an invasion of privacy, the internet is right at our fingertips and I dont think its a massive overstep to do a quick search because youre curious about someones professional background. I know in the past it was indexed by Google and I had to change my settings so it wouldnt show up, not sure if thats the case now. And yes, we both worked in software for the same aerospace company (different states). The best policy is to keep your mouth shut. Dont forget the milk reviews! Yeah, I dont Google but I look up bosses, colleagues, and prospective employers on LinkedIn regularly. (Pizza, especially if you are on a college campus.). (She was older and didnt quite understand the internet.). In the case of the LW whose coworker actually confronted her with information and expected her to explain herselfthat was super over the line. Polish up that resume and get out. I thought, Oh, what cool community thing did Boss Lady ended up in the paper for? and clicked. At least two of my past addresses show up when I google myself and Ive never explicitly put them online because that would be risky. Thats actually a rather startling observation, now that I think about it! Never have, never will. Not all managers work face-to-face with their employees every day. The first thing I thought of when I read that, was being a kid and my father pulling over to houses being built (more like a whole development, rather than a single house) to check it out.. I cant imagine that someone wouldnt like *any* of them. But to then look them up on Facebook, notice their URL is a kind of username, look THAT up on Twitter, see they tweeted about home buying woes, go look up county records to find their address and go look at their house listing on Zillow etc. I regularly do this sort of snooping on coworkers, healthcare providers, etc. There are common misunderstandings about what certain projects actually were whenever someone reads in it print that rarely happen through spoken conversations, because people see it through the lense of their history/experience (common problem for people who leave X industry but stay in tech). Then again, Im not even on Facebook. Trying to fix it has been absolutely more hassle than its worth. Society as a whole has determined that making those kinds of transactions public serve a legitimate societal interest, same with marriage, divorce, criminal records. Contractors & temporary colleagues in certain situations. I still have no idea what it was referencing! Think about that. We just had to send her the receipt. She spoke about it to our satisfaction, her references were good, and we hired her. Just because its publicly available, doesnt mean its fair game IMO. Its certainly a lot easier to pull up public records these days, but most peoples old internet posts are probably not going to show up on a ten minute casual googling. I think thats on topic if their question is what is and is not appropriatethis is definitely an example of what is NOT appropriate! People are complex. I know enough for friendly chit-chat and thats it. Thats not fair to them. Your best bet is to check with your management. Uh, no, Im just trying to do my job well. This resulted in a weird exchange with the hiring manager, thankfully who was understanding, but definitely left a bitter taste about asking prev. Stop accepting a bad reality as just the way things are denounce it and dont participate in it. I teach digital literacy and media, a lot of people dont know that. The how much should I search question is why Im grateful to have a common name (and why we didnt give our children unique names). I have a colleague who, when you googled her name (which was distinctive), was an entire page of results about how her former employer was suing her for breach of contract. I think it definitely depends on the salary of the employee in question, and also Id suggest that gift cards or something of the sort are preferable to reimbursement for meals, because for me, the cost of a $10 takeout order is DEFINITELY not worth the hassle of putting in an expense report. I am so grateful to my international namesakes for being so obviously in totally different fields. Maybe this has been answered before but in regards to taking something on your lunch break, what about after work, but on a work trip? So if they attend two luncheons, thats usually it for the year. Its been vetted by that individual for use in their professional life. And literally no one else I know can tolerate them. Its seriously been a game changer like that! Asking someone directly also makes it A Thing and sometimes its better for everyone of curiosity is satisfied in a low key way. But all of six years ago, that was before UberEats, I dont think online gift cards for places like Starbucks were that common yet (at least not in Canada), etc. Obviously this rule of thumb wouldnt help weird people like the background check dude, but it should be fine for everyone else. How much snooping can you do on coworkers? The HR professional then dug deeper into what was going on and the history of my role, apologized profusely for the unproductive way my team was transitioned to this new Director, seemed appropriately appalled by my treatment, then left and never spoke to me again until the meeting where I was transitioned to a new layer of management. Those reviews are up there with the memos from Mike at Tiger Oil. Having zero commute, the ability to meet the cable guy at 2pm, pick my kid up at 5:05 and tidy the house over lunch is all the treats I need. If you search for my name, youll get a lot of noise. Im allowed to know it, Im allowed to look it up, Im allowed to use it for legitimate contact purposes. Maybe an obituary of a relative. (Its an oldie but goodie internet treasure. Me neither. Exactly this with the minor exception of having the manager/director actually pick and communicate to you even a single metric for success I feel for your difficult experience. But you cannot take your age (for example) off the internet, and I for one certainly did not PUT my age on the internet. Technically the items in there still belong to the store and are not your private property yet, yeah, but itd be really weird. Thats a benign example because I dont care if my coworkers know I was a mediocre tennis player in high school, but a lot of peoples internet presences arent entirely self-created. I think that first example might even get you asked to leave a restaurant depending on the context. It sounded to me that some of the people are elsewhere on campus. With his dog. colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs. Hell, you can look up what someone paid for their house, marriage history, criminal record, all of that. So it comes out nicely. She wouldnt listen to me, I think because she was afraid of looking weak, and made terrible decisions because I couldnt get through to her about the impact her bad decisions would have. I used to work with Evil Bee, who often lamented she didnt understand twitter. it still sucks to hear almost every week theres free food in the office and I cant have any :( So an occasional small gift card for free food is always a nice touch! I always felt like free stuff at work was part of the trade-off for a commute, loud chewing neighbors, dressing up, and working in a cubicle farm. She eventually resigned, and on her last day she sent an email to the All Staff list to say there were chocolates and sweets in the kitchenbut not the head office one, even though she was spending her last day there. To me its not so much about what they see, its about their choosing to look more than incidentally even if all I was doing was just sitting in a chair reading a book. It works! You cant forget things you learn about people but you still have to work with them. And the injury would be having to pay someone what they are worth instead of low balling them in a potentially discriminatory fashion based on their previous pay? We do not live in a state where asking the former salary question is illegal, but how should I handle this? When I was younger I used to post stuff on FB a ton, constantly updating what I was doing, how I was feeling etc But now as I got older I realized I dont want the whole world to know that much about me. I think most if not all county tax assessors post sales records, name of person buying, and assessed value online now, if not online most places consider it an accessible public record. Social media is not privacy. And there can be good motivations and bad motivations. william lupo obituary colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs. Colleague: "an associate or coworker typically in a profession or in a civil or ecclesiastical office and often of similar rank or state : a fellow worker or professional". This is an interesting exampleI recently ran across a reference to an architect and google image searched his name, figuring that was the easiest way to get a feel for his work. I find it hard to believe so many people think its outrageous to do something on the level of looking at the public posts on someones FB page. Or maybe Ill go to a tradeshow, collect all the swag I can get my hands on, and submit individual disclosures on each item. In my state, marriage records, divorce records, and property ownership (including purchase price!) Simply googling someone isnt an intensive search. Paying for a background check or doing a deep dive in some other way could be. Theres plenty of information about me on the internet that I never consented to be put there but have no control over taking it down. Its a little like if a coworker saw a garment I was wearing slip and reveal more skin than normal before I corrected it- its not their fault they saw a little more than I would have chosen to show, but it harms that valuable illusion of privacy and turns pretty creepy if they keep bringing it up. Look, if Im talking to young people or folks who are still finding their way with social media or the like (and there are a LOT of them, and not all old), Id be very, very clear about the need to lock down your data, be careful about what you post, etc. OP#1, I have always been of the opinion that unless someone elses immediate physical well-being in threatened, its always best to mind your own business. Internet wise, and real life too, I am snoopy and nosy. In their quest to be helpful they autofill a lot of sites; now I just use several different emails for different types of sites. It sucks. Maybe you dont need a reason to snoop, but by the same token, youre giving me a reason to think youre incredibly inconsiderate to everyone you do deep dives searches on. Not talking about a quick Google search, but a deep dive. Im in a job with some pretty hefty commute times, so a lot of us dont live in the city where the job is. Which of the following are examples of accessing information without a business purpose? This is a huge personal red flag/potential trigger/issue for me as a rape survivor, and I am glad I found out. @Autumnheart, I strongly disagree with what youre saying here. Suggestion: dont do anything youd categorize as snooping. Whats your motivation? And by she I meant s/he the director of alpaca exams. They have hot chocolate and food. Back then it was way more private kind of hidden in its own little corner. I think most people would agree thats invasive. Youre not questioning their ability to do their job, if you ask about prior experience. Not everyone uses a GPS or phone for navigation in known areas, though that is becoming more common than not. I know my sister the nurse used to get tonnes of stuff. The fact that you didnt fully and truly understand the ramifications of the reach of your audience has no bearing on any of this. But if a coworker did that and you came across it ten years later, it is pretty basic common sense to realise that while you certainly *could* read through all their posts and learn a lot of personal information that they chose to put online, they probably would be embarrassed and a little weirded out if you actually did it and definitely would be if you brought it up at work. There are definitely reasons for googling someones profession background. Honestly, the only times Ive ever felt bummed by it have been the rare times that its been a big thank you thing that they kept secret and, had I known, I would have come in for. Im not sure how that could be resolved, unfortunately, but I still do think its valuable to have candidates meet the team theyd work with. She shouldnt have done that without your permission, nor should she have tried to tell them what to pay you! I might not reference it to the candidate or hiring partner, but it helps me guide the interview process. Input from the loyal commenter brigade is also appreciated. colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs Or is even that an overstep of boundaries? I actually dont post on social media much, maybe once or twice a year because I value my privacy. You will encounter the following words as you read "The Immigrant Contribution." Before reading, note how familiar you are with each word. I think Alison is 100% correct. I think the snoopy coworker was beyond horrid, but if the information is publicly available, its public. BUT, I dont think people necessarily have a right to be upset if others find things about you that you posted online, because its never 100% private. Agreed. Those are typically compiled only from publicly available records the ones that go beyond public records typically requite you to have obtained consent and a social security number from the person youre looking up. colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs. But overall it just sounds like the OP is so deeply unhappy that maybe its time to look for something else. Even if its not every time doing something to show they are valued would be a really nice gesture. Unfortunately, I also see this as the ultimate outcome they are hoping for. The point of office meals and activities is building comradery, so is there really an equivalent for remote employees? Yes. If youre uncomfortable asking them about something, then you probably shouldnt be snooping around about it either. The key is to focus completely on the other person. @Autumnheart but youre assuming that all the info someone finds by googling someone else is something that person explicitly posted online. Seems irrational, but I dont care if they snoop, I just dont want to know about it. The blog may have given them a reason to weigh that inappropriateness more heavily, but his actions at work were what got him fired. If you dont want people to have access to that information, then dont make it so easy for people to find. I love AAMs script for this. Malicious compliance! And, sure, I could just ask instead of googling, but Im pretty socially awkward and I think I would just come across as weirdly interrogating someone if I tried that. Its more accurate than third party. Working at home is still better than a slice of pizza. Just because someone took it too far with you doesnt mean just dont. One instance where Ive looked people up on LinkedIn is for higher ups in the company to see previous roles, to see what a path for myself could look like. In the comments there are several people who have said you should not google your coworkers unless you have a very specific reason or need some info about them. What was that like?, Or I ran across your blog, and I loved your story about the frog., And of course, it would be sort of rude to say I ran across your storya bout the frog, and I thought you were a jerk.. Or if you have multiple sites, give the other site equal money for their own event. Im not saying Ive never googled anyone before, and I dont think its an invasion of privacy if you do. I might borrow this for holiday party season. Its possible they just think management training is a good idea (it is, when its correctly targeted to skill level), or that theres a particular issue theyre trying to address. I just assume people with snoopy curiosity do it on me. Yeah. If it means my manager doesnt know what projects Im working on that is a big problem indicating communication breakdown with the OP or with the team. Were a Venmo-friendly office, so. Its always fun to see whos disgusted by the anchovies and whos grossed out by the olives. If it can be found during a garden-variety google search, thats technology for you. She likely thought she was helping, but she really overstepped. Ive actually reverse image searched some people from LinkedIn something sometimes just seems really off with some people. Thats what is happening in social media. literature. Our workplace has remote sites, about 50 people in one location, and 30 spread out in small teams in different cities. In some industries even as sandwich can be too much when it comes from a vendor. Now I would make a distinction if that neighbor not only watched me from their window, but started following me when I went to the store, the gym, to friends houses etc. Was there any way to save it, or did you just have to get out? And I have to say that if the attitude of , [my director had] nothing constructive, relevant, or informed to say about anything I had done for yet another year, bleeds into the LWs dealings with management shes not doing herself any favours. Alison mentions a GrubHub giftcard they deliver from dozens of different restaurants. What Id value most would be permission to work from home for a day, but thats not really in the same category as office pizza, so I dont blame him for not offering it. To my knowledge weve never actually disciplined somebody over this, but HR wont budge on the policy. plus you get to choose the toppings (roasted eggplant! I would not call it the same thing as a stranger sorting through your cart at the grocery store!! I dont necessarily expect them to understand every step I take in order to process these documents, not what every error message that means Im having trouble processing a document their role in understanding is to recognise what kind of problem (internal technical vs supplier information error) and how to solve it (call the specific IT department or contact the supplier), as well as knowing what steps *I* should have/ will have already taken to solve.
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